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Edwardsobama, remember that we're trying to be a reference work. You do some good work but much of your content is counterproductive. The last addition to the John McCain page was completely inappropriate. Yes, he has a reputation as a womanizer, but half of that entry was editorializing and the rest essentially unsourced. Please keep your contributions factual and neutral. Avoid adjectives and pejoratives. --Centerfielder 09:46, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

You've got some good points. --Edwardsorobama 00:11, 24 September 2008 (EDT)


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"Epilogue" (airdate July 23 2005) is the second season finale of the animated series Justice League Unlimited. In addition, this episode also tied together and continued some plot points from the cancelled Batman Beyond animated series, which was written by the same team. This episode focuses around Batman, revealing a dark secret.

The episode was written and produced before Justice League Unlimited was renewed for an additional season, so the episode was also intended as an epilogue for the entire DC animated universe started in Batman: The Animated Series, all the way to Justice League Unlimited.[1]

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Plot summary

After the last world crisis the Justice League faced, Amanda Waller (the government agent who tried to take down the JL because they were too powerful) started becoming their ally, and in her role as US Ambassador to the Justice League, got to know Batman, Bruce Wayne, very well, gaining a large respect for him. As time went on, Waller saw him age, and realized he wouldn't be around forever. However, in her mind, the world needed a Batman.

Waller used her old Cadmus contacts to launch "Project: Batman Beyond". She found a young couple, Dr. Warren and Mary McGinnis, that was almost an identical psychiatric match for Dr. Thomas and Martha Wayne after twenty-three years of searching. When Warren went in for what he thought was a flu shot, his reproductive DNA was overwritten by that of Bruce Wayne's. A year later, Terry McGinnis was born, genetically the son of Mrs. Mary McGinnis and Bruce Wayne.

Genetics, however, do not alone make a Batman, so Waller hired an assassin (Andrea Beaumont, the Phantasm from the Batman: The Animated Series movie Mask of the Phantasm) to kill Terry's parents when he was eight years old as the three of them were leaving a movie theatre showing The Gray Ghost Strikes hoping that the same tragedy would cause the same response. Andrea couldn't go through with it though, and the project was effectively scrapped. With the McGinnises spared, Matt McGinnis would be born. Since Warren McGinnis continued to carry Bruce Wayne's genetic material after Terry's conception, Matt is also the biological child of his brother's mentor.

However, nine years later, due to a cruel twist of fate, Terry's father was killed, on the orders of Derek Powers. Terry stumbled upon Wayne Manor and the Batcave, and the rest is future history (as seen in Batman Beyond). Waller implies that she believed it was a form of divine interference which led to the death of his father because it was still Terry's fate to become Batman.

Fifteen years later, when Bruce needed a new kidney, Terry was checked for compatibility. He was surprised that his DNA was similar to Bruce's. It took him months to finally run a DNA test, and the result is that he is the son of Bruce Wayne, not Warren McGinnis. When Terry learns that he is (genetically) the son of his mentor, he is at first angry, thinking that Bruce planned the whole thing. He imagines how he confronts Bruce Wayne with this information (in the form of black and white segments), ends his relationship with Dana, and turns his back on the future Justice League after their latest battle with the Iniquity Collective, saying "Batman is dead". Convinced that Bruce won't tell him the whole story, Terry breaks into Waller's home to get the story straight from her. From Waller, Terry finds that Bruce is innocent, and he became Batman purely by chance. Amanda's advice to Terry that "if you want to have a little better life than the old man's, take care of the people who love you. Or don't; it's your choice." Taking this advice to his heart, he returns to the Wayne Manor, prepares to propose to Dana (who now knows his secret identity), shares a moment of mostly unspoken reconciliation with Bruce, and takes off to patrol Gotham.

1st Appearances in JLU

Dr. Light (Full), Iniquity Collective, Justice League Unlimited (Aquagirl, Green Lantern (Kai-ro))

Behind the scenes

Batman Beyond: Catwoman Movie

Epilogue used story elements from a Batman Beyond movie that would have had Selina Kyle/Catwoman as the person responsible for the cloning of Bruce Wayne instead of Amanda Waller. Due to the dark tones of Return of the Joker, however, the second movie was rejected[2].

Producer Bruce Timm

"This was originally an idea we had for a Batman Beyond direct to video movie, except an elderly Selina Kyle would've been the one to clone Bruce, and there were going to be several of his clones. We thought we could tie it in with the Cadmus arc."

  • According to Bruce Timm, Wayne is also the biological father of Terry's younger brother Matt.[3]

Dwayne McDuffie

  • Although it is ambiguous on-screen, producer/writer Dwayne McDuffie confirmed that the black-and-white sequences are Terry's imagination of what will happen if he resigns as Batman, not flashbacks.
  • According to writer Dwayne McDuffie, Bruce, as the world's greatest detective, was aware that Terry and Matt are his genetic offspring some point after Terry assumed the role of Batman and realised the machination of Amanda Waller and Project Cadmus, but would never bring it up as he wanted Terry to be his own man, and out of respect for Warren McGinnis as well since he was the one who raised him since birth. [4]

References to other DC Animated Universe shows

  • The episode ends with a scene featuring a flying Terry silhouetted against buildings and startling an airborne police craft, is a reference to the opening scene of "On Leather Wings," the very first episode of the original Batman: The Animated Series. Kevin Conroy also played one of the officers on the police craft[5]
  • When questioning Bruce about the Cadmus procedure that could have altered his DNA, Bruce says that those procedures have been illegal for decades. Terry responds, "Didn't stop the Joker from using them on Tim Drake," referencing the Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker movie.
  • The episode takes place fifteen years after the end of Batman Beyond in the year 2054, placing Terry's age around thirty-one and Bruce around eighty-five.
  • The movie Terry and his family when the tragedy is supposed to happen is called "The Grey Ghost Strikes".

Cast

Actor Role
Kevin Conroy Batman/Bruce Wayne/Sky Patrol Officer
Will Friedle Terry McGinnis / Batman Beyond
CCH Pounder Amanda Waller
Lauren Tom Dana, Dr. Light, Kai-ro
Hynden Walch Ace
Marc Worden Parasite

See also

External links

  • The Watchtower - Details on Epilogue.
  • Details on TV.com

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Barack Obama

Hi, you removed the link to List of Left-wing articles critical of Obama from Attacks against Obama in Barack Obama. I've reverted it as there doesn't seem to be a reason not to include it.--Darrelljon 15:59, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Criticising Obama before he is in office seems to be okay for the mainstream media, the Republican party, other third parties, the articles Rumors and half truths about Obama, Obama's status as a professor or even Framing and re-framing Obama (which you haven't attempted to remove from the Barack Obama article or dkosopedia altogether) so it is okay for Left-wing articles too.--Darrelljon 16:28, 1 January 2009 (EST)
You got me. Was it my anti-war stance, support for free healthcare, support for free education, support for the working class, support for the unions, opposition to the Patriot Act, general anti-imperialism or general anti-capitalism, which gave it away?--Darrelljon 09:53, 10 January 2009 (EST)

anti-capitalism? oh gees.

Now I am started to wonder if you're a Republican.--Darrelljon 14:58, 17 January 2009 (EST)
I thought this was a wiki for the entire democrat party not a Barack Obama wiki.--Darrelljon 15:40, 23 January 2009 (EST)
there are no democrats who hate capitalism only republicans that claim there are. --Edwardsorobama 00:43, 26 January 2009 (EST)

I’m concerned too that my warning about prejudice was reverted. I don’t think it should have been. Those who read the critics should at least know what may motivate them. I’ve left this on Darrelljon’s talk page as well as yours. Proxima Centauri 09:52, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Antagonistic Atheism

I feel you are taking valid commentsw out of the article. Proxima Centauri 15:52, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Code Words

  • Please put entries in alphabetical order.
  • Use the definition format ; word: definition
  • If you want to propose a word without a definition, do so on the Discussion page.
  • Correct definitions and discussions of usage have no place on this page. It is only for non-obvious Republican Newspeak definitions.

good point from someone other than me

Offering Cynicism without also offering "PRACTICAL" solution is the mark of a moron. Just bitching and whining and making excuses for themselves

Do NOT make any further edits to the Haiti Wiki page

I don't care about your religious leanings, beliefs about a specific organization, or your desire to promote them. It's taken a lot of work to create that list, and a lot of effort maintain it. The organization of the page was very carefully chosen to match up with the diaries. All you are doing is creating more work for those of us who actually do things like work on getting aid to Haiti.

Your behavior is unacceptable, and is being taken up with the dKosopedia admins.

Well thank you so much for trying to settle this with me with out the admin.

Oh wait you didn't.

--Edwardsorobama 15:03, 26 January 2010 (EST)

You know, the change you made today was beyond disingenuous. I'm very disappointed that you tried it. Please do not edit the Haiti Earthquake Relief page again; you are being unhelpful and wasting time. —Sardonyx 00:21, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Have you looked at the history of the Haiti Earthquake Relief page and its genisis from Norbrook's User Page? If you haven't, you should. This is basic: deleting portions of the major contributor's hard work to suit your preferences/biases without sound reasoned discussion/collaboration is inadequte (especially in this important matter of dire human need) and grounds for being banned. So please behave in a more mature manner. --jbet777 14:02, 1 February 2010 (EST)

Point is, Norbrook is doing the lion's share of link gathering/writing. Why aggravate? Why play the reversion 'game' if all you're doing is alphabetizing? Your good work on other articles has been and continues to be appreciated, EdwardsorObama--jbet777 16:07, 3 February 2010 (EST)

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