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IMO, Texas, given its extent, must have source citations, if only bcz it shows enough effort to look like a copyright infringement. I've given it only a glance, but it looks like a major contribution! Bravo! --Iks(TkPg) 14:12, 1 Jun 2004 (PDT)

The Texas dissertation was written by User:Tylerh. --Centerfielder 14:46, 1 Jun 2004 (PDT)

Great, tnx, i'll say the same to them. --Iks(TkPg) 15:12, 1 Jun 2004 (PDT)

--Pyrrho 18:51, 3 Jun 2004 (PDT) Centerfielder... how is the host holding up? Specifically, how is all the image uploading suiting you? From where I sit it remains strong and responsive, but with all the activity and uploads... is it still looking good from your end?

--Pyrrho 10:38, 4 Jun 2004 (PDT) Another question, Centerfielder... about the CSS for headings. I think we need to indent subsection heading, and possibly give them other unique style elements. Right now all section headings look like subsections in the text although they are indented in the TOC.


ThreadSummaries & MP w/ Args

Tnx, CF; I was working the list of all the articles, looking for things deserving stub msgs, and just stumbled across ThreadSummaries, which eventually led me to the MP because it is linked from there. I didn't plan to work further on the Args aspect of it, but I admit it's a worthy task & I'll follow up by doing the same with the similarly-named pages.

With regard to that work, your note begins to hint for me at how this Alternate Main Pages thing must work. One question: have you considered and ruled out using the MediaWiki msg facility for what i assume must be many common elements of the various versions? If the answer is "No" (or "Wha...?" for that matter!), I'll take a look to see if it's as likely to work as I think, then build & point out to you a pilot use of it.

Finally (and I can't recall whether this response is overdue or repetitious), I'm not ignoring your invitation to start the dKosopedia:Namespace page. I think much of what I wrote on dKosopedia talk:Thread summary is another important part of that page-to-be, and I think I'm about ready to put a first draft on dKosopedia:Namespace.
--Iks(TkPg) 12:08, 26 Jun 2004 (PDT)


Yesterday I added some comments to this article (which has little merit anywhere much less in a progressive encyclopedia), but I was surprised to find just now that it was crossed out. The article should be deleted (preferably) or revised, but "crossing it out" is really a bad idea, I think. CSTAR 16:23, 26 Oct 2004 (PDT)

If no-one objects I am going to delete most of the garbage that is currently crossed out in this article. Actually, I think part of the article serves a purpose since the term is (or was used) by Andrew Sullivan who though I don't particularly like does merit constructive criticism from progressives. I regard him as somebody that "has lost his political moral compass". I may take flak for this, but I think he belongs with progressives.
Perhaps the article should be renamed. Hello ANYBODY OUT THERE?? CSTAR 16:03, 4 Nov 2004 (PST)

Math tags

I notice that math tags to produce PNG files of TeX code don't work on dkosopedia. Now you may ask why do I care about math tags? Well I would like to start an article with a far-ranging and careful analysis of Dembski's Specified complexity; to do this I really need math tags.

<math> \int_0^\infty e^{-x^2} dx </math>

Trying to write this on wikipedia is hopeless.--CSTAR 15:28, 10 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Navigation links

The navigation bar that shows up on the left on all dKosopedia pages have several links that are bothersome: "Current events" list events that are not current, "Help" which is no help, and "Donations" which is a dead end. "Current events" is #34 on the 'popular pages' list! Perhaps they can be deleted until they are truly relevant?--Jbet777 16:12, 31 May 2006 (PDT)

I agree. The upgraded software is supposed to result in easier sidebar navigation modification, but I have yet to get it to work. It's in the works. -- Centerfielder 16:52, 31 May 2006 (PDT)

New skins

Its OK with me; although I like the current look. --Corncam 17:20, 24 August 2006 (PDT)


Wow! Thanks! I also just got a promotion on Campaigns Wikia to Bureaucrat. It's nice to be trusted. Chadlupkes 09:09, 29 August 2006 (PDT)

Post election reorg

Hi Centerfielder, I'd appreciate your comments on dKosopedia:Post election reorg. thanks, --Corncam 10:12, 9 November 2006 (PST)

Frameshop is a protected Trademark

Hi Centerfielder,

I got an email from Jeffrey Feldman in reply from Liberal Thinking (Rich) about the Frameshop pages, and he's asking us to not use his trademark. I think moving the Frameshop: pages to Frametank: will work. I'll work on this over the next few days, and if I can get some help that would be great. I posted the email here. Chadlupkes 07:39, 3 January 2007 (PST)

Rich posted a blog entry here about the changes he is proposing, and it doesn't look like anyone really objects. I'm going to adjust the main page links to that section and let him do most of the rest of the work. Chadlupkes 13:15, 7 January 2007 (PST)

(Update from Rich)

I changed this to put in my stage name. Also, as you know, I've changed most of the pages to remove the "Frameshop" trademark. You can see these changes on the main page in the Projects area. The only remaining issue is the link on the main page in the "Election integrity articles" area and some minor links that need to be chased down in the details.

Also, I'm still setting up the "Frame Creation by Topic" area.


Hey-- would you sysop me? I'd like to do some page moves etc.; cleaning up for the Congressional Committees Project. --The Cunctator 10:31, 6 March 2007 (PST)

I'd rather not just now; nothing personal. Talk to Abou Ben Adhem about CCP page moves and such --Centerfielder 15:10, 6 March 2007 (PST)

Centerfieder, your new protected version of GWB is even worse than Demogirl's.

Account creation disabled?

Hi, I have a friend who wants to register an account. Apparently account creation is now disabled. Any idea what he should do? Joshua 10:52, 29 July 2007 (PDT)

Do you want to delete The Imperial Presidency article?

Because there is nothing new in this article. Sgl 11:36, 17 October 2007 (PDT)

Election results

Hi Centerfielder-

You may or may not have noticed that in the last couple weeks I've, on my own initiative (first time I've done anything with dKosopedia), started a project of election results pages. Seeing as how you just posted the swank new version of 2004 election results with the sortable table, I thought maybe we should coordinate our efforts so we don't overlap (if you were planning on doing more election data tables). I've decided that what I'm doing is actually complementary to what you're doing... your table is a comparison of states for a particular year, while I'm doing a different page for each state, comparing results over the years (for gubernatorial and senatorial races as well as presidential), so you can see statewide evolution (or devolution). Here's a sample: Alabama election results. (So far I'm up through Kansas, and was thinking of adding major counties once I've finished with all the states.) I also started an all-purpose page called Election results to which I'm linking all my new pages; if you want to coordinate efforts, please link your new page and any other tables of election data you know of here that fit. (Also, if you have any input on any possible improvements to the tables I'm putting together, especially if you think these should have the sortable table function applied to them, I'd be glad to have your input.) -- Crisitunity 1:00 17 October 2007 (PDT)

Images not appearing in dKosopedia articles

Seems that images that have been uploaded to dKosopedia and linked to appear in dKosopedia articles aren't appearing. Can you check it out? Thx. -Jbet777

can you give me an example? - Centerfielder 19:05, 11 January 2008 (PST)
Kalama Valley, Kamilo Nui, Honolulu Hale, Mike Callaghan, David Hahn, etc --Jbet777 23:14, 11 January 2008 (PST)

Is it a referrer problem

I had the same problem with no images showing up and noticed your response on Jbet's page. I tweaked my settings a bit and I needed to enable "referrer logging." Quite a number of people have referrer logging disabled and that way you get an empty URL as the source page. DrDebug 04:55, 23 February 2008 (PST)

I don't think I have it disabled. Jbet's problem was his firewall configuration. -- Centerfielder 06:49, 23 February 2008 (PST)

Can you lock a page

Can you lock Template:If, because I already used it at quite a number of places and it is a patchy Mediawiki extension which nobody should edit anyhow. DrDebug 06:33, 28 February 2008 (PST)

Protect, not unprotect

I think you made a little mistake, it is now unprotected which was basically what it was before as well.

The reason for protecting this template:

  1. Nobody can or should change the template. Even if becomes deprecated with new software, it can just remain as is, because the parser function is called #if.
  2. I already used it on over 100 pages and it'll be used at least 100 times more.
  3. It is a second level template which is only used in other templates.
  4. It is usually cached permanently because of its frequent usage, so a simple revert in case of vandalism will still result in hours of faulty pages unless the reverter knows that he should issue a action=purge as well.

Sorry to be such a pain in the butt ;) This is an exceptional page, at least I hope we don't need more exotic templates... DrDebug 02:56, 1 March 2008 (PST)

why are other people given credit for my article?

I wrote Winning_the_war_against_totalitarianism. 99% of the edits are by me, too. BartFarden and Brudny are given credit as the author in the space below the article. Bart wrote on the discussion page that is was a "rant," and that's been his major contribution.

So what the heck is going on? p0m 21:44, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

And I just looked at an article that I have never had anything to do with and found: Based on work by ..... Patrick0Moran.

This is possibly somebody's brilliant idea to give individuals credit for working for the entire group??? So what happens when somebody's boss finds his employee is given credit for an article on some wickedly liberal policy initiative -- e.g., a Ruger employee is credited with an article advocating draconian controls on handgun possession, heavy sentences for gun dealers who mess up their paperwork, and a rant against arms merchants driving civilization toward a final shoot-out? p0m 01:26, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

I should be able to figure it out? O.K., my value is 0. p0m 21:22, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Thank you!

I keep removing that line from Obamacans that roger keeps inserting, and I was just about to give up!

You should give up and it should stay we need to remind people not to drive away obamacans. --Edwardsorobama 15:50, 19 September 2008 (EDT)
Remind people elsewhere. The dKosopedia is not the place for that. It looks unprofessional.

Editing vs. "Excising"

Centerfielder: I am *editing* articles. You are welcome to comment, but do not threaten me. Loyal opposition

Hi! Question From A Former Wikipedian and A Hopefully Future Dkospedian

Hello, I was told that you were the person in charge around here. I was curious about the policies here in general and how they're made as well as the community, if there is one (no offense, but this place is a ghost town compared to when I was active on Wikipedia back in 2004-2006). I'm willing to do my part in helping to build that community and anything else, but if i'm stepping on toes, i'd be more than happy to just plug along alone and not bother anybody. Andrew Sylvia 01:02, 28 November 2008 (EST) ===Talk Pages===``` I apologize if I screwed things up on your talk page, i'll reply to your reply on my talk page and I can put up links here to facilitate communication unless you'd prefer that I don't. Andrew Sylvia 18:05, 29 November 2008 (EST)

Ideas Thread

User talk:Andrew Sylvia#Ideas

Photo Thread

User talk:Andrew Sylvia#Image Thumbnails

Another Question

The Captcha thing is obnoxious. How do we get rid of that? At least for established users. Andrew Sylvia 20:02, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Thanks For The Welcome

This will be an interesting challenge to tackle in regards to making the policies of this site work to facilitate our goal, which I assume is making a source of information for progressives.

However, on that point, if somebody wants to be NPOV, I don't think it would make sense to stop them as long as they're not conservative trolls or conservative normal editors.

As long as this is just a hobby though, i'll try to stick around provided the real world doesn't get me. My old job was as a political organizer, and I might be able to take lessons learned from there to help organize this project, but that job officially ends on Monday and i'll need to find a new one.

In any case, thanks for the welcome, and let me know what I can do to help, If I have any more questions, i'll head back here!14:29, 29 November 2008 (EST)


Perhaps if we could develop some kind of "legislature" to discuss policies (a lower house for all users and an upper house for administrators), that might help people feel more apt to follow policies like avoiding adjectives (which I concur with). I tried proposing this on Wikipedia, but they hated it because in the end, Wikipedia is run the way Dubya wanted America to be run: laws don't matter, and therefore real laws come from those in power, not from those in the grassroots.Andrew Sylvia 15:20, 29 November 2008 (EST)

Photo Experts?

Hi again, I tried uploading a photo, but the thumbnail won't show. Is there anyone who knows how to fix this? Andrew Sylvia 15:39, 29 November 2008 (EST)


You mentioned that it takes awhile to become an admin. How long is awhile? Andrew Sylvia 09:30, 6 December 2008 (EST)


I've kind of scaled back my ambition from "creating a community of progressives creating a grassroots information database" to "place to store political data that I can't find elsewhere easily for my future reference". I can't change that if i'm not an admin, I may not be able to change things anyway, but it doesn't seem like it's worth the effort if I don't have the power to fix stuff.

However, if you're not comfortable with me not being an admin, i'm still cool as long as you're cool with me adding election results and supreme court lists and such. I'm just not going to add any pictures or external links because that is extremely annoying with the captcha there and not knowing what isn't working with the pictures.

I definitely understand and agree with having captcha for non-trusted users to stop spambots. Andrew Sylvia 22:43, 8 December 2008 (EST)


Can we put only political content here, or anything? I'd assume the former, but figured I should ask before going willy nilly on your wiki. Andrew Sylvia 04:01, 28 December 2008 (EST)

World View

Let me know how it works out with Darrelljon. Also, what happened before? Andrew Sylvia 17:35, 29 December 2008 (EST)


How long do I haveto keep doing captias? Proxima Centauri 09:27, 25 January 2009 (EST)

External namespaces

Would it be possible to add Left: as a namespace that redirects people to Chadlupkes 20:21, 22 February 2009 (EST)

GFDL 1.3 and CC-by-sa 3.0

Hi! The community here should be aware that Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects have voted to switch licenses to Creative Commons-Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 from the GFDL. This is possible because contributions are licensed under "GFDL 1.2 or later versions", and the GFDL 1.3 has a provision to allow wiki projects to switch to Creative Commons. However, according to the terms of the GFDL 1.3, switching licenses is only possible if done before August 1, 2009.

Because Wikipedia is changing licenses, it will no longer be possible to move content to and from Wikipedia (without violating the licenses) unless this project also changes over to CC-by-sa. Your community should be aware that if it doesn't switch to CC-by-sa, importing Wikipedia content will not be legal.

See for more information.

PS. I'm going to be trying to email some DKos people too about this, hopefully there will be a response somewhere... Please feel free to contact me on my talk page or through email (in my profile). If you need help with the process, the Outreach page linked above is a great place to ask. --Falcorian 21:08, 27 May 2009 (EDT)


I'm dealing with a vandal who when he's not making threats or vandalizing articles out right refuses to allow topics to be alphabetized.

Any ideas? --Edwardsorobama 18:06, 31 January 2010 (EST)

Your assistance please

A couple of days ago you blocked a vandal. I also ended up being blocked.

If I understand the advisory left for me, this block was because my IP address was in a range close to that of the vandal.

As a consequence I lost several hours of good faith work in an edit buffer that was unsaved.

I am sure it wasn't your intention to blow away several hours of good faith work. So, how close was my IP? Did I merely share an ISP with the vandal?

Please inform me of whether there are steps you or I can take to make sure I am not confused with that vandal, or some other vandal, in future.

Thanks Geo Swan 21:47, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

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