Talk:Islamist

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Maybe this term just shouldn't be used here. The following is from Wikipedia which seems to have a big problem with it:


The term Islamist does not appear in the legitimate translations and writings prior to about 1980. At that time, the word meant "a scholar studying Islam from outside the Islamic world itself".

After 1980, the English language word Islamist acquired a very ambiguous meaning, imposed by many attempts to define it for use in politics, exactly as has happened with the term jihad, an Arabic word important in Islam itself. Both words are used in quite different ways to describe different activities so as to claim that their view of the word or process is right.

A neutral point of view requires acknowledging both uses of the term, according this is a rather complex disambiguation page.

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Anyone calling themselves an Islamist believes in some form of adherence to the tenets of Islam within and through the political system. Beyond that mild statement there are many shades of meaning. An extreme view is that:

“Only Islamic values and morals, Islamic teachings and safeguards, are worthy of mankind, and from this unchanging and true measure of human progress, Islam is the real civilization and Islamic society is truly civilized,” Sayyed Qutb wrote in "Milestones."

However, using Islamist as a bona fide political label still has serious problems: as with "communist" it might imply that there is an ideology, "communism" that all adherents share, which is intent on violent political domination of all others. In this interpretation, to call someone or something Islamist is to accuse it of Islamism - a term invented by Americans and Israelis in the 1980s to describe a variant of terrorism.

And, as with "scientist", to be Islamist can imply that there is a view in which Islam, like science, is a method by which to view ethics and morals so as to make objectively correct decisions - typically a form of consensus decision making. This is not tied to any particular view of how one might apply or impose the decisions, which might include democracy or other traditions. In this view, to claim an Islamist is guilty or part of Islamism is like claiming a scientist is always guilty or part of scientism.

For the vast majority of people who would describe themselves openly as Islamist', the broader and more inclusive definition applies. There are large democratic parties in Turkey and Indonesia especially that call themselves by this name, and throughout the Muslim world it is common to describe countries and parties and groups as Islamist. What these groups share is a broader understanding of Islam as a political movement and many espouse liberal Islam and modern Islamic philosophy. By no means do they share most attributes of the so-called Islamism: claiming that they do is often racism, plain and simple.

For example, at Wikipedia:itself, various proponents of Zionism and American Exceptionalism often redirect this word Islamist to their article on Islamism, ignoring and slandering the vast majority of claimed Islamists, to whom the extremist concepts described there are unfamiliar, violent and unreasonable.

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