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Rationalwiki has good content

I'd like to see it copied to this page by someone who can.

Changes Needed

I understand the need to keep it locked. It's constantly attacked with the same nonsense and hate speech/propaganda against abortion. That said, someone with admin editing privileges could improve the article by:

--Pro-Lick 21:12, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

Category needed

Please add Category:Issues or unlock. Chadlupkes 16:53, 11 July 2006 (PDT)

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Old talk

Pyrrho 03:04, 12 Sep 2004 (PDT) um, john, if you want to do this seriously you have to work with us. You may in fact be able to get some of your facts to remain on this page... but for one you are going to have to allow the perspective to appeal to a progressive. You're maybe not that far off in that I see you are trying to add a "science" section. Fine. I reverted your changes because you also added the anti-canadian page which discredits you putting this section in unilaterally. This takes discussion here.

Now... I happen to think differently on this issue than most other people, and it's by focussing on the science. Personally, I don't mind some of the talk about when life begins... but you can't have the "Obviously this is ridiculous"... the science doesn't speak to that. The science is only the number of chromosomes. This does inform a decision of when "human life" begins but nothing more. You know why? Because science doesn't place values. It describes physical interations and properties.

You pasted in the exact stuff cut out. You might think you should be able to put it in. Obviously not all of it, unedited. Frankly, I would like to assume you have the "right" to edit the wiki. But you have to understand the community policy. You don't put an opinion in as science, and when you put opinion in, it has to be progressive/liberal. You can manage to get your fact in though, because we form opinions based on them. I backed out of your change rather than edit it for you.

why not put here a summary of the fact you think make things obvious, and we'll discuss it.

I have figured out how to ban you, but by then I realized I didn't want to ban you right away or at all if possible. As I said, I think it's possible we might be able to compromise on "science". I would appreciate if you realized that we were determined to have a politically liberal viewpoint on this subject and would be satisfied if we just included pertinent facts, like the life span of the sperm and whatnot.

In that case we all end up ahead. If the facts are compelling then at least they are here among the liberal position surrounding them... so people can see through the opinion and form their own. We're fine with that. But this section as is won't stand.

As for trashing the canadians... that's just not nice... don't think they don't have guns... they got rifles.

--Demosthenes 18:18, 13 Sep 2004 (PDT) When your entry is deleted by three different users its a hint that it is not appropriate.

--Pyrrho 20:33, 13 Sep 2004 (PDT) now the page is protected... that sucks. should I unprotect it... now? later? what? leaving it protected is defeat.

--Centerfielder 05:41, 14 Sep 2004 (PDT) I'll unprotect it. I was following what Wikipedia seems to do when there's an edit war - protect as a means of forcing a cooling off period.

--Pyrrho 11:01, 14 Sep 2004 (PDT) what sucked is that it had to be done. btw, more visitors today.

--Pyrrho 13:33, 14 Sep 2004 (PDT) for example, I've had to reprotect it... how long is the cooling off period, do you think? btw, you can look at my user page to see this is probably only going to work with a ban. I love the idea of letting these guys get a few points in... but not that much.

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This page was last modified 13:32, 10 November 2013 by dKosopedia user PatriotismOverProfits. Based on work by Chad Lupkes and dKosopedia user(s) Pro-Lick, DRolfe, Pyrrho, Centerfielder, Demosthenes and Tunesmith. Content is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.

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